מתני׳ בֵּן סוֹרֵר וּמוֹרֶה מֵאֵימָתַי נַעֲשֶׂה בֵּן סוֹרֵר וּמוֹרֶה?

The Torah describes the punishment given to a son who steals money from his parents to eat a gluttonous meal of meat and wine in the company of lowly men. If his parents bring him to court for this act, he is exhorted to desist and is punished with lashes. If he repeats the same misdeed and is again brought to court by his parents within the same three-month period, he is considered a stubborn and rebellious son [ ben sorer umoreh ]. He is liable to receive the death penalty, which in this case is execution by stoning. From when does a stubborn and rebellious son become liable to receive the death penalty imposed upon a stubborn and rebellious son?

מִשֶּׁיָּבִיא שְׁתֵּי שְׂעָרוֹת, וְעַד שֶׁיַּקִּיף זָקָן – הַתַּחְתּוֹן וְלֹא הָעֶלְיוֹן, אֶלָּא שֶׁדִּבְּרוּ חֲכָמִים בְּלָשׁוֹן נְקִיָּה. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״כִּי יִהְיֶה לְאִישׁ בֵּן״. ״בֵּן״ – וְלֹא בַּת, ״בֵּן״ – וְלֹא אִישׁ. קָטָן פָּטוּר, שֶׁלֹּא בָּא לִכְלַל מִצְוֹת.

From when he grows two pubic hairs, which are a sign of puberty and from which time he is considered an adult, until he has grown a beard around. The reference here is to the lower beard surrounding his genitals, and not the upper beard, i.e., his facial hair, but the Sages spoke in euphemistic terms. As it is stated: “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son” (Deuteronomy 21:18), which indicates that the penalty for rebelliousness is imposed upon a son, but not upon a daughter; and upon a son, but not upon a fully grown man. A minor under the age of thirteen is exempt from the penalty imposed upon a stubborn and rebellious son, because he has not yet reached the age of inclusion in mitzvot.

גמ׳ קָטָן מְנָלַן דְּפָטוּר? מְנָלַן? כִּדְקָתָנֵי טַעְמָא: ״שֶׁלֹּא בָּא לִכְלַל מִצְוֹת״! וְתוּ: הֵיכָא אַשְׁכַּחַן דְּעָנַשׁ הַכָּתוּב, דְּהָכָא לִיבָּעֵי קְרָא לְמִיפְטְרֵיהּ?

The Gemara inquires about the source of the halakha taught in the mishna: From where do we derive that a minor is exempt from the punishment imposed upon a stubborn and rebellious son? The Gemara comments: This question is puzzling: From where do we derive this halakha ? The reason is as is taught in the mishna: Because he has not yet reached the age of inclusion in mitzvot. And furthermore, where do we find that the verse punishes a minor, so that a special verse should be required here in order to exempt him?

אֲנַן הָכִי קָאָמְרִינַן: אַטּוּ בֵּן סוֹרֵר וּמוֹרֶה עַל חֶטְאוֹ נֶהֱרָג? עַל שֵׁם סוֹפוֹ נֶהֱרָג, וְכֵיוָן דְּעַל שֵׁם סוֹפוֹ נֶהֱרָג – אֲפִילּוּ קָטָן נַמִי. וְעוֹד: ״בֵּן״, וְלֹא אִישׁ, קָטָן מַשְׁמַע.

The Gemara clarifies: This is what we are saying: Is this to say that a stubborn and rebellious son is killed for a sin that he already committed? But, as will be explained (71b), he is killed for what he will become in the end. The Torah understands that since the boy has already embarked on an evil path, he will continue to be drawn after his natural tendencies and commit many offenses that are more severe. It is therefore preferable that he should be killed now so that he may die in relative innocence, rather than be put to death in the future bearing much more guilt. And since he is executed for what he will become in the end, one might have thought that even a minor as well can be sentenced to the death penalty as a stubborn and rebellious son. And furthermore, the exclusion: “A son,” but not a man, indicates that a minor is in fact included in the halakha , as he is not yet a man.

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: דְּאָמַר קְרָא: ״וְכִי יִהְיֶה לְאִישׁ בֵּן״ – ״בֵּן״ הַסָּמוּךְ לִגְבוּרָתוֹ שֶׁל אִישׁ.

Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: A minor is exempt from the punishment imposed upon a stubborn and rebellious son, as the verse states: “If a man has a son” (Deuteronomy 21:18), which indicates that the halakha applies to a son who is close to the stage of having the strength of a man, i.e., close to full maturity, but not to a younger boy.

״וְעַד שֶׁיַּקִּיף זָקָן הַתַּחְתּוֹן״ כו׳. תָּנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: ״עַד שֶׁיַּקִּיף עֲטָרָה״. כִּי אֲתָא רַב דִּימִי אֲמַר: הַקָּפַת גִּיד, וְלֹא הַקָּפַת בֵּיצִים.

§ The mishna teaches that a boy can be sentenced as a stubborn and rebellious son only until he has grown a lower beard. Rabbi Ḥiyya teaches a baraita that states: Until the hair surrounds the corona. When Rav Dimi came from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia he said in explanation of Rabbi Ḥiyya’s statement: The reference in the mishna is to hair surrounding the penis and not to hair surrounding the sac holding the testicles, which grows later.

אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: קָטָן שֶׁהוֹלִיד – אֵין בְּנוֹ נַעֲשֶׂה בֵּן סוֹרֵר וּמוֹרֶה, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״כִּי יִהְיֶה לְאִישׁ בֵּן״, לְאִישׁ בֵּן, וְלֹא לְבֵן בֵּן. הַאי מִיבָּעֵי לֵיהּ לְכִדְרַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב! אִם כֵּן לֵימָא קְרָא: ״כִּי יִהְיֶה בֵּן לְאִישׁ״, מַאי כִּי יִהְיֶה לְאִישׁ בֵּן? שְׁמַע מִינָּהּ לְכִדְרַב חִסְדָּא.

§ Rav Ḥisda says: In the case of a minor who fathered a child, his son cannot become a stubborn and rebellious son, as it is stated: “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son,” which indicates that the halakha applies only if a man has a son, but not if a son, i.e., one who is not yet a man, has a son. The Gemara asks: How can Rav Ḥisda derive his halakha from this verse? Doesn’t he require this verse to teach us that which Rav Yehuda says that Rav says, namely, that a minor is exempt from the punishment imposed upon a stubborn and rebellious son? The Gemara answers: This verse teaches two halakhot , as, were the intention to teach only the halakha that a minor is exempt, let the verse say: If there be a son to a man. For what reason does the verse introduce a change into the normal word order and state: “If a man has a son”? Conclude from it that the verse serves to teach the ruling of Rav Ḥisda.

וְאֵימָא כּוּלֵּיהּ לְהָכִי הוּא דַּאֲתָא! אִם כֵּן נֵימָא קְרָא: ״בֵּן אִישׁ״, מַאי ״לְאִישׁ בֵּן״? שְׁמַע מִינָּהּ תַּרְתֵּי.

The Gemara asks: If so, say that the entire verse comes to teach us this, i.e., what Rav Ḥisda said, and that it does not teach that a minor is not included in the halakha of a stubborn and rebellious son. The Gemara answers: If so, the verse should have stated: If there be the son of a man. What is the meaning of: “If a man has a son”? Conclude two conclusions from it, both that a minor cannot become a stubborn and rebellious son and that if a minor fathered a son, the son cannot become a stubborn and rebellious son.

וּפְלִיגָא דְּרַבָּה, דְּאָמַר רַבָּה: קָטָן אֵינוֹ מוֹלִיד, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״וְאִם אֵין לָאִישׁ גֹּאֵל״, וְכִי יֵשׁ לְךָ אָדָם בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל שֶׁאֵין לוֹ גּוֹאֵל?

The Gemara comments: And Rav Ḥisda’s statement disagrees with the opinion of Rabba, as Rabba says in connection with one who returns stolen property after having taken a false oath that he did not steal it: A minor cannot father a child, as it is stated: “But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made, let the trespass that is recompensed to the Lord be the priest’s” (Numbers 5:8). And is there any man in the Jewish people who does not have a relative? All members of the Jewish people are related, as they all descend from the patriarch Jacob, and therefore every person has a relative who is fit to inherit from him.

אֶלָּא בְּגֵזֶל הַגֵּר הַכָּתוּב מְדַבֵּר,

Rather, the verse is speaking of the robbery of a convert, who is treated like a newborn child and considered to have no ties to his natural parents or relatives. If he did not father any children after his conversion, he is a man with no relatives at all, and therefore if he dies, property that had been stolen from him must be returned to a priest.